Well of course it'll be rigged, it's the only way Mugabe could win!

On the other hand, what does it matter? Something like a third of the population has fled the country, the economy continues to nosedive.. Mugabe seems eager to go down with the ship.

"This really is an African problem that has to be solved by Africa"

That's it in a nutshell, Africa's leaders have completely failed to live up to their responsibilites, the same as they did in Dafur, and Rwanda.

The same as the majority of political elites in Africa continue to steal from the people, and live in the lap of luxury whilst their people starve.

Deleted by moderator

Zimbabwe's elections have been recognised by the UN. Yous understandings me Meera.

"What did Zimbabwe ever do to deserve such a plotless bore."

..so you don't agree that Mugabe's handling of the economy has been catastrophic?

Or would you rather avoid the question, I suspect..?

Deleted by moderator

It's worth adding that the voters know from previous experience that food aid will be withheld from districts that vote for the opposition.

ManVanTshwane -

"Zimbabwe's elections have been recognised by the UN"

no they haven't! In addition Mugabe is refusing to let the official election monitors into the country, and has shut down paper that disagree with him.

How in gods name can you defend this tyrant, ManVanTshwane? He's screwing Zimbabwe in the name of black power!

So Kosovo was our problem but Zimbabwe isnt?

So Millions live and die because of Geography.

When history is written I dont think the Geography provision is going to make it alongside "We will fight them on the beaches...."

However difficult it is, this is a battle that can be won, it is a battle that should be fought lest a peoples be destroyed. Am with Tony lets do Mugabe.

'...upcoming elections will be fixed, the boxes stuffed with surplus ballot papers just as the people's pockets are stuffed with worthless money...'

Yes - our postal ballot system here in the the UK does need a complete overhaul. Oh sorry, just realised you were talking about Zimbabwe.

"Thabo Mbeki, the South African president, has always been careful not to embarrass Mugabe, preferring a sustained, quieter dialogue with his old ally."

What dialogue? Mugabe doesn't do dialogue.

Mugabe is 84 years old now. Only old age, infirmity and death will get rid of him. We must hope that in a
post - Mugabe Zimbabwe, there is no power vacuum and that whoever steps into his place is better than he has been. The only good thing to say about him is that he can't last for much longer.

Zimbabwe being a land locked country only the countries around it can help it but they have turned a blind eye to the plight of the people. Zimbabwe biggest export is it citizens who have left the country, this has hollowed out its most creative and best people as they have left for other countries. Who ever takes over will find that the countrys human capital is depleted as well as infastructure, so rebuilding will not be easy as its best people have left and established new lives elsewhere. Even if uncle bob wins eventually he will die and then the scamble for power will begin, unless his own supporters turn on him like a pack of hungry dogs and depose him. Uncle bob has survived so long because the leaders of many other african countries are not shining examples of democracy and the finger could point in their direction next. I would suggest that ManVanTshwane goes to live in Zimbabwe and the scales will fall from his eyes as to the reality of the situation of the day to day lives of the people.

I was in Zimbabwe during the last presidential election.
In the cities, the number of polling stations were cut back
at short notice, with the rate of processing voters deliberately at a snails pace. Many people queued for two days and nights to vote.
The courts ruled in favour of a third day of voting,
after which the police promptly moved in with teargas to disperse and disenfranchise these voters.

In the rural areas, the returns were astonishingly high,
considering many people on the registers had either died,
moved to the cities, or emigrated.
The MDC were prevented by intimidation and violence from having representatives at many of the rural polling stations.

Yet, one of the SADC election monitors stated that the
election was free and fair, according to 'African standards'.

It's time for higher standards from other African leaders.
They should have found a gracious path to retirement for
this tinpot dictator after the last stolen election.

Zimbabwe needs thinking in other way. There's no doubt someone's done many mistakes whereas all of them have got to forget the past. Today it's essential to look up the economic situation and to have a politic stability. It should be done this lest new incidents happen. According to me Zimbabwean people ought to help the government so as to change the things. In this contest there hasn't got to be corruption unless they want to create other problems. All of us have seen in Africa wars and corruption. What is the instability being fostered for? Why don't African people solve these problems? Inasmuch as African Union has got power, it's responsible about security. Notwithstanding there's much poverty in Africa, African people increase their problems with new wars and violences. This has been seen in Kenya, Zimbabwe, Somalia and so on. I can most distinctly say that international community hasn't been able to tackle this situation. Surely UN isn't being helped by African people and this has to be told. What they need is more openness rather than selfishness. Having been done many mistakes they ought to learn the lesson. If all of they do that there will be well-being otherwise just poverty and war. In fact the violence won't allow them to do a good life. International community will have to accompany African people in order to reach this purpose.

It is misinformed, misguided and delusional people like this journalist who are the problem for Zimbabwe not Mugabe.
Why is it that you have come to the stupid conclusion that the only free election is one in which Mugabe loses?
How many Zimbabweans must perish because of western sanctions before you admit that these sanctions have failed to turn rural voters against their President?
Mugabe DOES NOT rig elections. He wins because he is excellent orator who knows what message to give to the rural electorate who are the backbone of his regime.
He wins because he is the only courageous black African leader who can stand up and tell stupid capitalists like you Meera and your manipulative Western rulers to go to hell.
He will win next week because the old people in the rural areas who fought and survived the evil white colonialist regime of Smith will see to it that no Rhodie sympathizer and apologist like the stooges in the MDC get to form a government in a country we fought hard to liberate.
He will win because the MDC is a band of dim witted fools who think Western support can be translated into votes on the ground.
For your information the MDC or what's left of it is only popular with slum dwellers that happen to be foreigners and few middle-class sell-outs who cannot resist the easy access to the American dollar that MDC membership brings with it.
For us true Zimbabwe we now hope and pray that after this election, Simba Makoni will move on to form a truly home grown principled and true Zimbabwean opposition party to rival Zanu-PF.
We are tired of charlatans like Morgan and their insatiable taste for praise from the capitalist and neolibs in the West.
So Meera before you attempt to soil the name of Zimbabwe do a bit of research first. If you had done that, you will not have come to the silly conclusion that the election will be stolen. Zimbabwe is not the Maldives where you could write and report your way into an award or a scholarship Meera.
It is a country with a proud revolutionary history and you do yourself no favour by seeking to soil the name of its founding president.
It is up to us Zimbabweans to judge the success or otherwise of Mugabe not foreign busy bodies like you.
What a shame on those who continue to pour millions into MDC coffers. You and they are backing the wrong horse. Like has happened every time since 2000, MDC will loose again and this time by a VERY HUMILLIATING MARGIN. After this then we patriotic Zimbabweans can sit down and sort out the issue of founding a genuine opposition party. Hopefully Dabengwa and Makoni will not do a Tsvangirayi on the country too, for every country does need a proper opposition party.This MDC thing will be securely thrown away into the rubbish bin of history come next week as it will be routed out of all relevancy.

MDELELWA -- wow, are you for real? And are you actually real?

Do we have a Zimbabwean PresidentD on our hands here?

Mdelelwa has been at the magic mushrooms... Too bad his great anti-colonialist leader Mugabe can't even feed his people, isn't it?

MDELELWA - "For your information the MDC or what's left of it is only popular with slum dwellers"

Mugabe has made sure all Zimbabweans are slum dwellers these days, no?

I'll bet my last Zim Dollar (not worth much after Mugabe's great work) that you drive around the streets of London in a black diplomatic S-Class Mercedes reg ZIM 1

MDELELWA

You're really grasping at straws aren't you..?

"It is misinformed, misguided and delusional people like this journalist who are the problem for Zimbabwe not Mugabe"

Right, so it's this journalist's fault that Mugabe has sent the economy down the pan?

"Why is it that you have come to the stupid conclusion that the only free election is one in which Mugabe loses?"

Because he's completely ruined Zimbabwe's economy and driven his people down into grinding poverty?

"How many Zimbabweans must perish because of western sanctions before you admit that these sanctions have failed to turn rural voters against their President?"

Aaaah, I see, so it's the fault of 'western sanctions' that
Mugabe's thugs invaded all of those farms, thus grinding the economy to a halt? Or perhaps it's the fault of the west that inflation has gone through the roof?

"Mugabe DOES NOT rig elections"

For goodness sake, you could at least try and come out with a convincing lie! Do you seriously, honestly believe that?

WAKE UP, Mugabe is destroying Zimbabwe, it's got nothing to do with the evil westerners and you know it.

But yes MDELELWA, what the hell, vote Zanu PF! And then watch your country fall even futher into the abyss.

It's your choice.

MDELELWA - "For your information the MDC or what's left of it is only popular with slum dwellers"

Actually Mugabe's program "Clean out the filth"
which destroyed thousands of dwellings,
made homeless tens of thousands of these slum dwellers.
So, according to MDELELWA, Mugabe, being the great
African leader he is, brought an end to slums in Zimbabwe.
And with the title of the program told us what we already know, how he feels about the people of Zimbabwe,
particularly those that disagree with him.

MDELELWA, welcome to CIF, where we look forward to you
continue to defend the indefensible.

We in South Africa have been caught up in a bit of a dilemma. What do you do when your favorite uncle goes crazy? The guy who helped you grow up and sheltered you in the dark days? What do we do about our crazy uncle Bob? not so easy - http://angryafrican.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/my-uncle-bob/

MDELELWA doesn't care if Mugabe stays in power because he/she is living in Britain where the negative situation in Zimbabwe doesn't affect him/her.

Perhaps you should go and live in your wonderful country if you consider yourself a patriotic Zimbabwean.

Angryafrican, please explain to me because I can't understand this.. Despite Mugabe's status as being one of the original revolutionary brothers, why on earth have Africa's leaders not intervened? Why are they allowing Zimbabwe to collapse?

South Africa's response in particular has been very odd, they've got millions of refugees flooding over the border and yet neither Mbeki or Zuma see the situation as urgent..?

Arent you glad you can oppose this article without fear?

Wouldnt it be great if it could happen in Zimbabwe?

Some people are so naive.

Does it really matter who is elected? The prevailing culture will still be the same. Read animal farm and you might understand.

Nobody does delusion better than the left - Meera's previous four articles cover - chaos in Kenya - a fragile ceasefire in Uganda - violence in Chad - tragedy in Darfur.

Her solution in each article? Peace, mutual understanding and goodwill must carry the day. Yeah Right!

And this time?

'Zimbabwe was and still can be one of the most prosperous, modern countries in Africa, with the political, cultural and economic clout to power the whole region. Its friends and allies need to guide it back onto the right path.'

Well ok CongestionCharge, if all us hapless lefties have got it so wrong, what's your solution?

Far be it from me to suggest that the right wingers who frequent this site are happy to throw the mud but are short on answers themselves..

terryuno -

"Does it really matter who is elected? The prevailing culture will still be the same."

Well considering how far down the path to oblivion Mugagbe has taken Zimbabwe, terryuno, yes I think it would make a huge difference if somebody else took over! The opposition wouldn't be beaten and intimidated for a start.

The idea that Zimbabwe problems are down to one man is ludicrous. If that was truly the case then surely he could have been taken out and everything would be roses.

Whoever replaces him will have to act in a similiar way to Mugabe because that is the language of Zimbabwean culture. Some people thought just getting rid of Saddam Hussein would turn Iraq into a democracy.

European intervention is the only hope for Zimbabwe. Europeans have the skills and knowledge to turn Zimbabwe into a successful nation. In other words DIVERSITY & MULTICULTURISM.

The idea that Zimbabwe problems are down to one man is ludicrous. If that was truly the case then surely he could have been taken out and everything would be roses.

Whoever replaces him will have to act in a similiar way to Mugabe because that is the language of Zimbabwean culture. Some people thought just getting rid of Saddam Hussein would turn Iraq into a democracy.

European intervention is the only hope for Zimbabwe. Europeans have the skills and knowledge to turn Zimbabwe into a successful nation. In other words DIVERSITY & MULTICULTURISM.

Finite187 write "Well ok CongestionCharge, if all us hapless lefties have got it so wrong, what's your solution?

Far be it from me to suggest that the right wingers who frequent this site are happy to throw the mud but are short on answers themselves"

Finite187 what bloody breed of lefty are you trying to exactly brain wash us with...the pretendy-lefty desparado or the degenerated Tony Blair variety. Next you'll try and slip it in that the Rhodesian SS were somehow lefties. Get over it fascist, the dead Nazi state of Rhodesia and Tonyblairia both failed and Zimbabwe lives on. Blairofascist creep.

Shona-Ndebeles 5
Anglo-Saxons 0

Africa free and fair democratic elections.......Don't make me laugh!

Terryuno - do you know much about the History of Zimbabwe? It doesn't sound like it. Also using phrases like 'If that was truly the case then surely he could have been taken out and everything would be roses' does nothing to lend any weight to your argument. If you look at the history and politics of Zimbabwe you will see that it is indeed one man, Comrade Bob, that has sent Zimbabwe into a downward spiral.

ManVanTshwane - Zimbabwe lives on? yeah keep on believing that if you like. Where are you writing from, your living room in Twickenham? Stop your ranting, it makes you sound like an idiot

ManVanTshwane

"Next you'll try and slip it in that the Rhodesian SS were somehow lefties. Get over it fascist, the dead Nazi state of Rhodesia and Tonyblairia both failed and Zimbabwe lives on. Blairofascist creep."

hahahahaaaa, you must be a windup, ManVanTshwane.. I can assure you, all of us evil anglo saxons would like nothing more than to keep out of African affairs, but would you not agree that Zimbabwe is in serious economic trouble at the moment?

Would you also agree that this economic collapse is the fault of Robert Mugabe? It wasn't us evil westerners who invaded all those farms and caused the collapse of Zimbabwe's agricultural system.

Similarly, western nations had nothing to do with sky high inflation. Or the intimidation and beatings of opposition activists.

Tell me ManVanTshwane, do you live in Zimbabwe? Somehow I suspect not..

A depressing set of comments here, that only seem to underline a)how limited the possible solutions are and b)how polarised people's positions are.

The only workable solution I can see would be for the ANC to negotiate secretly with Zanu PF to remove Mugabe - ironically, it's like South Africa all over again - Zim is going to have to haul itself back towards democracy the longer, transitional, way. There will be no velvet revolution. Sadly.

PS: every Saturday, from 2-6 they hold a vigil outside Zim House on the Strand. Go to support, or at the very least to hear how beautifully they sing Nkosi Sikele iAfrika.

Terryuno - You may well be right about a legacy of African 'strongmen', Idi Aminn, Mubutu, now Mugabe.. But the fact of the matter is that Zimbabwe (by African standards) was doing ok before Mugabe decided to start invading the white-owned farms. They were producing enough food to feed most people, in fact they used to export food to the rest of Africa.

What's going on now is out of the ordinary, definitely.

Get real peeps.
Mugabwe wouldn't have survived for so long if he didn't have widespread support.

Zimbabwe needs to open itself up to the outside world through mass immigration. It needs new ideas and fresh blood. People like Mugabwe are relics of the past and need to be sidelined.

"Mugabwe wouldn't have survived for so long if he didn't have widespread support."

You're absolutely right, but that's because until fairly recently, he wasn't displaying these facist tendencies!

I think the bigger problem is that all of these revolutionary movements have suddenly found themselves in power all over Africa, but these guys are clueless ex-marxists who haven't the first idea how to run an economy. When things go wrong, they respond with 'strongman' tactics.

There's also a tendency to end up with virtual one-party states, the ANC and Zanu PF being good examples.

Terryuno, you're nothing short of a genius, in fact you should be running Zimbabawe instead of 'Mugabwe'

Sorry, Mugabe, although I prefer Mugabwe.

hilarious contribs from ManVanTswane and mdelelewa...
clearly they are bitter individuals - a remnant of those old africanist pseudo-leftists who whine about the wicked west and who, like mugabe, are still fighting yesterday's battles...all this while their dreams of african liberation are as worthless as a barrel full of zim banknotes.
its not the west wot dun it mates, its the sheer thievery, thuggery, incompetance and general stupidity of those leaders you idolize - this, sadly, is what the great zimbabwe Chimurenga has been reduced to....and of course you will be the last to realize this.
It is also deeply, deeply saddening to realize that Ian Smith was right...
Amandla Awetu?? HA HA HA!

Be careful what you say Mugabe might be a cannibal that would come as no surprize, Amin was.

@austint
Yes I am for real-a true patriotic Zimbabwean who will not just sit down in peace and quiet when foreign mischief makers plot mayhem and disaster in my country.
Every election time, you have all these parachute journalists and armchair experts like you predicting bloodshed and civil war when results are announced.
Every election time the Western cable news organizations send their star presenters to the country to witness the bloodshed they wish to see happen in vain.
Some diplomats go as far as paying fools like Morgan to confront law enforcement agents in the hope of provoking civil war.
All what you posters here wish to see is civil strife in Zimbabwe because you cannot accept that an African country can tell you to go to hell and eject white colonialist settlers like we did. You have no real concern for Zimbabwe. If you were genuinely concerned you would be urging your governments to lift illegal sanctions they imposed on Zimbabwe.
You need to accept that you cannot fool all the Africans all the time. From time to time a Mugabe will rise up and tell you where to take your racist tendencies and policies. Not all Africans are clueless political idiots like Morgan your favoured stooge of the moment.
You can wail as much as you like but I tell you events in Zimbabwe are beyond your control. You cannot simply walk in and do the silly orange thing like in Ukraine or execute another Rose or purple or whatever colour your so-called revolutions are called elsewhere. Zimbabwe is different for it is a country born out of revolutionary sacrifices of its people and leaders. The thuggery, the racism and evil of the former colonialist settlers is still fresh in our minds.
Our country can never be a colony again. There is no going back to Rhodesia. Our people maybe hungry but at least they are free and proud of their revolutionary heritage. The sooner you lot accept that the better for you. ZIMBABWE IS NOT FOR SALE!! If you are looking for another piece of Africa to buy, try Botswana where you lot prefer to keep quite whilst its government poisons off the Khoisan people in order to protect Western diamond concerns. And remember even there, real Africans are beginning to challenge their sell-out leaders and are reclaiming what belongs to them. Zimbabwe has shown them its possible to challenge centuries of western domination. You can vilify and demonize the likes of Mugabe but the truth is that your power and influence in Africa is waning. No other country in Africa has ever told your spies and political agitators and subversives pretending to be election observers to go to hell. So I am not surprised you are pissed off with RGM. After he thwarted grand Western plan to partition the DRC he is at it again driving the last nail on the coffin of Rhodie remnants in Zimbabwe. What an African!!!!!!!!

@austint
Yes I am for real-a true patriotic Zimbabwean who will not just sit down in peace and quiet when foreign mischief makers plot mayhem and disaster in my country.
Every election time, you have all these parachute journalists and armchair experts like you predicting bloodshed and civil war when results are announced.
Every election time the Western cable news organizations send their star presenters to the country to witness the bloodshed they wish to see happen in vain.
Some diplomats go as far as paying fools like Morgan to confront law enforcement agents in the hope of provoking civil war.
All what you posters here wish to see is civil strife in Zimbabwe because you cannot accept that an African country can tell you to go to hell and eject white colonialist settlers like we did. You have no real concern for Zimbabwe. If you were genuinely concerned you would be urging your governments to lift illegal sanctions they imposed on Zimbabwe.
You need to accept that you cannot fool all the Africans all the time. From time to time a Mugabe will rise up and tell you where to take your racist tendencies and policies. Not all Africans are clueless political idiots like Morgan your favoured stooge of the moment.
You can wail as much as you like but I tell you events in Zimbabwe are beyond your control. You cannot simply walk in and do the silly orange thing like in Ukraine or execute another Rose or purple or whatever colour your so-called revolutions are called elsewhere. Zimbabwe is different for it is a country born out of revolutionary sacrifices of its people and leaders. The thuggery, the racism and evil of the former colonialist settlers is still fresh in our minds.
Our country can never be a colony again. There is no going back to Rhodesia. Our people maybe hungry but at least they are free and proud of their revolutionary heritage. The sooner you lot accept that the better for you. ZIMBABWE IS NOT FOR SALE!! If you are looking for another piece of Africa to buy, try Botswana where you lot prefer to keep quite whilst its government poisons off the Khoisan people in order to protect Western diamond concerns. And remember even there, real Africans are beginning to challenge their sell-out leaders and are reclaiming what belongs to them. Zimbabwe has shown them its possible to challenge centuries of western domination. You can vilify and demonize the likes of Mugabe but the truth is that your power and influence in Africa is waning. No other country in Africa has ever told your spies and political agitators and subversives pretending to be election observers to go to hell. So I am not surprised you are pissed off with RGM. After he thwarted grand Western plan to partition the DRC he is at it again driving the last nail on the coffin of Rhodie remnants in Zimbabwe. What an African!!!!!!!!

@austint
Yes I am for real-a true patriotic Zimbabwean who will not just sit down in peace and quiet when foreign mischief makers plot mayhem and disaster in my country.
Every election time, you have all these parachute journalists and armchair experts like you predicting bloodshed and civil war when results are announced.
Every election time the Western cable news organizations send their star presenters to the country to witness the bloodshed they wish to see happen in vain.
Some diplomats go as far as paying fools like Morgan to confront law enforcement agents in the hope of provoking civil war.
All what you posters here wish to see is civil strife in Zimbabwe because you cannot accept that an African country can tell you to go to hell and eject white colonialist settlers like we did. You have no real concern for Zimbabwe. If you were genuinely concerned you would be urging your governments to lift illegal sanctions they imposed on Zimbabwe.
You need to accept that you cannot fool all the Africans all the time. From time to time a Mugabe will rise up and tell you where to take your racist tendencies and policies. Not all Africans are clueless political idiots like Morgan your favoured stooge of the moment.
You can wail as much as you like but I tell you events in Zimbabwe are beyond your control. You cannot simply walk in and do the silly orange thing like in Ukraine or execute another Rose or purple or whatever colour your so-called revolutions are called elsewhere. Zimbabwe is different for it is a country born out of revolutionary sacrifices of its people and leaders. The thuggery, the racism and evil of the former colonialist settlers is still fresh in our minds.
Our country can never be a colony again. There is no going back to Rhodesia. Our people maybe hungry but at least they are free and proud of their revolutionary heritage. The sooner you lot accept that the better for you. ZIMBABWE IS NOT FOR SALE!! If you are looking for another piece of Africa to buy, try Botswana where you lot prefer to keep quite whilst its government poisons off the Khoisan people in order to protect Western diamond concerns. And remember even there, real Africans are beginning to challenge their sell-out leaders and are reclaiming what belongs to them. Zimbabwe has shown them its possible to challenge centuries of western domination. You can vilify and demonize the likes of Mugabe but the truth is that your power and influence in Africa is waning. No other country in Africa has ever told your spies and political agitators and subversives pretending to be election observers to go to hell. So I am not surprised you are pissed off with RGM. After he thwarted grand Western plan to partition the DRC he is at it again driving the last nail on the coffin of Rhodie remnants in Zimbabwe. What an African!!!!!!!!

Mdelelwa, you are such a patriotic Zim that you live in Britain. Get over yourself. Nobody believes you, you may as well say that the sun sets in the North... You really are creepy.

MDELELWA
How can you, hand on heart,
call yourself a patriotic Zimbabwean?

Patriotic Zimbabweans, of which there are many, black and white, despair at the collapse of the country caused,
not by Britain, nor by 'unpatriotic whites',
but by the disastrous policies of Mugabe and
his ruling black elite, who have replaced the white racism
of Rhodesia with their own brand of racism,
something, I see, you have bought into,
hook, line and sinker, repeating the Mugabe mantra:
"Zimbabwe will never be a colony again".

Britain and the West had sanctions against RHODESIA,
supported the independent state of Zimbabwe,
(the Lancaster House agreement), provided development aid (and still provides humanitarian aid) to Zimbabwe.
Britain, the country in which you are fortunate enough
to reside, to be able to work, that has a functioning
healthcare system, a social welfare system,
you still want to see as your enemy !
You have spent too much time in the youth camps, shamwari!!

terryuno: You are the one who needs to get real. Mugabe rules through extreme violence, which began in the mid 1980s, and would never win a free and fair election. The Constitution allows the President to chose 30 MPs, which means the opposition has to win at least 30 more seats than ZANU PF. Opponents cannot get the weaponry to depose him from sympathetic neighbouring countries like he did, so the people of Zimbabwe are stuck with him.

Mugabe narrowly lost the only free and fair election to be held in Zimbabwe - the Referendum on a new Constituition in February 2000. That's why he rigged the parlimentary elections a few months later after intimidating the rural population. He 'won' that vote by a very narrow margin and if the law had been allowed to take its course and some election results overturned, he would have lost. I was there at the time and have hundreds of newspaper cuttings detailing the attrocities committed on his orders.

However, There are plenty of Zimbabweans who could run the country far better than Mugabe. I've had the honour of working with some of them. They used to make regular visits abroad, many have been educated abroad and have plenty of 'fresh' ideas.

See www.cryzimbabwe.com

MDELELWA: Zimbabwe was for sale quite recently. Gaddafy was given chunks of it in return for oil.

And as you rightly say, Botswana cleverly sells its diamonds so Botswanans can eat. Meanwhile, Police Chiefs, Newsreaders, and politicians sit in the farmhouses of the former white farmers in Zimbabwe and discuss life after Mugabe instead of putting 'their' land to productive use. Pure Genius.

Why are you in Britain if life in Zimbabwe is so good and you are so patriotic?

MDELELWA

"Yes I am for real-a true patriotic Zimbabwean who will not just sit down in peace and quiet when foreign mischief makers plot mayhem and disaster in my country"

'Foreign mischief makers' haven't needed to do anything Mdelelwa, Mugabe has done a very good job of wrecking the economy all on his own. If you actually lived there you'd appreciate that a bit more.

If only Zimbabwe had something worth stealing, the the USA would be there championing the spirit of "Democracy". . . poor shame - and shame on the West.

To waazpi, to terryuno, to Finite187 and to
all Rhodies and Rhodie sympathizers,
Get it through your thick skins.
You have failed since 2000 to kill off Zimbabwe.
What makes you think this time around you will succeed?
This is much more than Mugabe. It is about Zimbabwe's pride-a people saying we will not be told what to do by those who sought to keep us in perpetual servitude. This is about Africans standing up tall and proud and telling oppressors to get lost from their midst.
I do not need Mugabe to tell me that Western interference in Zimbabwe is down to evil intentions.
Over five million people, FIVE MILLION Africans, 5000000 million innocent civilians 5m Congolese people have died in the DRC since the 2000.
Why are you lot not voicing concern about that? Why are you not staging these vigils that you are staging over Zimbabwe in respect of these millions? The millions of people dead in the DRC in less than ten years are more than the entire population of Ireland. Where is your shock at this statistics? Obviously, because your governments are implicated in the death of these millions I do not expect you lot to comment on that.
Instead you pick on Zimbabwe where only a handful have unfortunately died usually due to violence sanctioned and perpetrated by the puppet opposition.
If there is a God somewhere, when judgment day comes you lot will occupy the deepest and the hottest depths of hell.
VIVA ZIMBABWE!!!!!!!

To waazpi, to terryuno, to Finite187 and to
all Rhodies and Rhodie sympathizers,
Get it through your thick skins.
You have failed since 2000 to kill off Zimbabwe.
What makes you think this time around you will succeed?
This is much more than Mugabe. It is about Zimbabwe's pride-a people saying we will not be told what to do by those who sought to keep us in perpetual servitude. This is about Africans standing up tall and proud and telling oppressors to get lost from their midst.
I do not need Mugabe to tell me that Western interference in Zimbabwe is down to evil intentions.
Over five million people, FIVE MILLION Africans, 5000000 million innocent civilians 5m Congolese people have died in the DRC since the 2000.
Why are you lot not voicing concern about that? Why are you not staging these vigils that you are staging over Zimbabwe in respect of these millions? The millions of people dead in the DRC in less than ten years are more than the entire population of Ireland. Where is your shock at this statistics? Obviously, because your governments are implicated in the death of these millions I do not expect you lot to comment on that.
Instead you pick on Zimbabwe where only a handful have unfortunately died usually due to violence sanctioned and perpetrated by the puppet opposition.
If there is a God somewhere, when judgment day comes you lot will occupy the deepest and the hottest depths of hell.
VIVA ZIMBABWE!!!!!!!

"Our people maybe hungry but at least they are free and proud of their revolutionary heritage. The sooner you lot accept that the better for you. ZIMBABWE IS NOT FOR SALE!!"

Free to be beaten, raped, murdered, starved, made homeless, die from simple sickness for want of water and aspiran....yes they are free to a suffer a miserable existence.

Proud of the revolution - what a crock, what revolution..
Criminals and drunks given arms by russia, who never engaged in a stand up fight in their lives. Murdering familys and civilians and running away ...... what a joke. It was the UK and world pressure on South Africa that gave Mugabe a chance at the helm - how wrong we were.

Of course the majority wanted an end to white rule, but they didnt sign up for this madmans reign.

Zimbabwe is not for sale, thats the best line Ive heard. Mugabe has sold off every scrap of worth in Zimbabwe to keep himself in power. China now owns anything of value left, namely minerals and mining rights.

Mugabe belongs in the Hauge. And the people who supported him will not be forgotten.

> It is hard to see just how Zimbabwe can be saved.

So true. With the passing of Ian Smith, Zimbabwe can never go back to the days of prosperity where the country fed most of sub-Saharan Africa.

Thanks to the malfeasance of the UK government, a once-prosperous country now starves.

Well what do you know? Scratch some Brits and you might just find a colonial homunculus tricked out in pith helmet and jodhpurs. I thought was our gig these days.

MDELELWA

Personally, I don't give a toss about lost causes like Zimbabwe.

Also, thank you for illustrating my point about nothing changing if Mugabe left. There would still be people like you to destroy the country.

@ kickinbird

you say, "Free to be beaten, raped, murdered, starved, made homeless, die from simple sickness for want of water and aspiran....yes they are free to a suffer a miserable existence".
You could not have better described the situation in 1937 when my parents were driven out of their ancestral land any better.
They not only lost their livelihood and way of live but were subjected to terrible horrors. I am proud to say that a few weeks ago I walked a free man on those lands now back to my people all because of the revolutionary sacrifices of all Zimbabweans.
Mugabe to the Hague? Whilst Mugabe let the tyrant Smith die a free man? Ever ask yourself why we did not hang smith in 1980? Because we Africans are better humans than our oppressors.
Mugabe to the Hague? To that notorious so-called international court of justice? You must be joking. If anyone deserves to be put on trial and be shot before dawn it is Rhodies who killed thousands of Africans.
Mugabe to the Hague? What about Tony Blair and Bush? Why are you not protesting about the violence they have visited on Iraq? Or their complicity in the genocide in the DRC?

MDELELWA: "This is about Africans standing up tall and proud and telling oppressors to get lost from their midst."

And once the 'oppressors' are gone from your midst back to Europe you'll just follow them to wherever they go because the country will turn to sh**.

That's why you're in Britain right now instead of Zimbabwe right?

There will probably be a flood of black South Africans moving to Britain soon as that country turns to Sh** under Zuma.

MDELELWA: "Why are you not protesting about the violence they have visited on Iraq? Or their complicity in the genocide in the DRC?"

A lot of people have protested against the Iraq war and condemned Bush and Blair for their actions. Why can't you condemn Mugabe for some of what he has done?

And how do Bush and Blair get the blame for the war in the Congo when it started before they were in office?

I know that Mugabe sent soldiers to fight in the DRC but did Bush and Blair?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/611898.stm

Imperialist wrote "So true. With the passing of Ian Smith, Zimbabwe can never go back to the days of prosperity where the country fed most of sub-Saharan Africa."

Seriously Imperialist have you been eating your own feces? What is it about Euros and their love affairs for fascist big men. You need to grow up and get a life you derranged nutcake.

@WAAZPI

"There will probably be a flood of black South Africans moving to Britain soon as that country turns to Sh** under Zuma".

There are many reasons why people migrate. But at least the Africans coming here do not come to plunder and loot the Western countries. They do not come here to rape your sisters and mothers like those evil settlers who went to Africa did to my people. Africans come here to work and earn an honest penny. I think that is what globalization is about-one global village hey! You do not complain about outward migration from places like UK. So why talk of a flood of blacks when you people flooded the world, colonized and multiplied like insects in NZ, USA , RSA, ZIM and Australia to the extent of almost breeding out the real owners of those lands.

@WAAZPI

"There will probably be a flood of black South Africans moving to Britain soon as that country turns to Sh** under Zuma".

There are many reasons why people migrate. But at least the Africans coming here do not come to plunder and loot the Western countries. They do not come here to rape your sisters and mothers like those evil settlers who went to Africa did to my people. Africans come here to work and earn an honest penny. I think that is what globalization is about-one global village hey! You do not complain about outward migration from places like UK. So why talk of a flood of blacks when you people flooded the world, colonized and multiplied like insects in NZ, USA , RSA, ZIM and Australia to the extent of almost breeding out the real owners of those lands.

MDELELWA & ManVanTshwane,

next time someone stops me to in the street collecting for africa I will say that i will not assist them as i do not want to be an imperialist, supprting post colonial rule or to be seen as supporting foreign agencies trying to undermine african countries. We should also assist individuals such as yourself to return to these countries as it is such a hardship in the west and you are being treated badly.

I believe the west should get out of africa and leave it alone. Africa can then have the rulers they deserve and the economic consequenses. Goodbuy africa missing you already (not).

Why do so many zimbabwe citizens want to remain in the UK if we are so bad, they have voted with thier feet.

Government of national unity. Rule of Law. Economic crash plans. Emergency aid projects to establish secure supply of food, water and power. Redistribution of land. Training for farmers.

Simple things being suggested by fellow black Zimbabweans. The MDC are indigenous, the Matabele are indigenous.

Its not about whites - its about the greatest african weakness, tribal power, that is brutish and uncomprimising.

Until you stop being a victim you will not be any use to the country you profess to love.

MDELELWA: There are many reasons why people migrate.

Like trying to get an education, a living, freedom and many other things not available in the utopia that is Zimbabwe where everyone is fed well, owns land, has freedom, education and access to a good economy...

Nhasi ndoda kuparidza nezvedenga

MDELELWA, many Africans have come to 'plunder and loot' by selling illegal drugs on the streets of Europe, pimping out white girls, mugging people on the streets, etc...

They are also raping white European women probably to a greater extent than black women in Africa were raped by white men. I find it difficult to believe that a white person would rape a black woman anyway.

Look at the statistics on sexual assault and rape in the US:

Rape/Sexual assault:
Number of white victims 111,490

Offenders:
white on white 44.5% (49,613)
black on white 33.6% (37,460)

Number of black victims 36,620
white on black 0% (0)
black on black 100% (36,620)

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf
(page 30 of 38)

MDELELWA: There are many reasons why people migrate.

Like trying to get an education, a living, freedom and many other things not available in the utopia that is Zimbabwe where everyone is fed well, owns land, has freedom, and access to a stable equitable economy...

Nhasi ndoda kuparidza nezvedenga

MDELELWA: There are many reasons why people migrate.

Like trying to get an education, a living, freedom and many other things not available in the utopia that is Zimbabwe where everyone is fed well, owns land, has freedom, and access to a stable equitable economy...

Nhasi ndoda kuparidza nezvedenga

@MDELELWA -- you've ignored the question about 5 times now, so let's be blunt: If you love Zimbabwe so much, and it's such a wonderful place to live -- then why aren't you back there with all your revolutionary brethren kissing Mugabe's feet instead of ACTUALLY living in Britian amongst all the white imperialist warmongers???

I.M. Kaffir

Hmmm....why isn't anyone asking China to lead a multi-national force to restore stability? Russia? India? What about France? Better yet, let Africans fix Africa -- where's Egypt? South Africa?

In a related topic, how is the Sudanese regime responding to all the hand-wringing going on?

The point is -- to actually enforce the policy of "never again" requires military force or the threat thereof. Do you really think Mugabe or the janjaweed care about what Angelina Jolie or Mia Farrow think? Or do you think that a NIMITZ-class aircraft carrier steaming off the coastline might be a better method of getting their attention? All those years Europe etc. cashed in on the peace dividend and let the US do all the heavy lifting around the world might be coming back to haunt you.

For the record -- I don't support US intervention in Zimbabwe or Darfur -- primarily because change has to come from within, but also because the US has been vilified to the point that even destroying the execrable Mugabe regime would be used against us. Europe, China, Russia, Africa -- you figure it out.

USNCDR:
keep your racist shit to yourself

@waazpi
you state
"I find it difficult to believe that a white person would rape a black woman anyway".
And you think your views on Zimbabwe on Africa on Black people are not affected by racism? If whites did not rape our people during the evil colonialist days why was Zimbabwe full of the so-called "coloured" people. If you know anything about Zimbabwe you will surely recall that in Byo we have a whole township called Thorgrove. Here the regime rounded and settled these "coloured" people. Some were born out of loving mixed relationships but the majority were off-spring of house girls/maids raped by their white bosses.

Well wotcha make of this, eh:

Mugabe opponents forced to eat election posters:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/26/zimbabwe1

wolfiesmith wrote "next time someone stops me to in the street collecting for africa I will say that i will not assist them as i do not want to be an imperialist, supprting post colonial rule or to be seen as supporting foreign agencies trying to undermine african countries. We should also assist individuals such as yourself to return to these countries as it is such a hardship in the west and you are being treated badly.

I believe the west should get out of africa and leave it alone. Africa can then have the rulers they deserve and the economic consequenses. Goodbuy africa missing you already (not).

Why do so many zimbabwe citizens want to remain in the UK if we are so bad, they have vote